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Ghost Xray
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.27 09:38:00 -
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Reech Yvormes wrote:baltec1 wrote:Reech Yvormes wrote:
if this is considered player vs player by CCP and everyone else then really, do those big battles really exist or is it just this kind of slimey one sided gank the guy with one tenth of the skills you have, with your multiple accounts, pod him so he gets skills even slower, robs him of all his value, even though he doesnt even have a gun on his ship. heh. this part is just not my taste of pvp i guess.
Of course its pvp, its two players going up against eachother. what part of going up against each other, was i going up against anyone? i tried to warp, died, tried to warp, died. not much to it really. it wiped me of over 100 million in implants and set my training back days. and because i was trying to mine and skill up. what part of player v player do you call that? oh i undocked so i gotta lose my training time? ...... like i say. stay logged out to train. nice game for newbies, stay logged out. cos otherwise everyone going to gank you and do anything they can to ruin your training time? have fun with this.
So you're a couple weeks nub with +4 implants. While it was an expensive lesson for you, it's a very important one. If you can't afford to lose it, you can't afford to use it.
And for any other nubs thinking "I'd like to PVP, is the first step to get into a mining ship?" Captain Obvious is here to tell you "Nay young pilot. Mining will not give you the necessary training to become an ~elite~ pvper. Try joining Red Vs. Blue or Faction Wars."
For the record, I don't care what people do with their time in EvE. Nobody should tell you that you have to PVP. But don't think that you can also tell anyone else that they shouldn't PVP you. Just like you don't want people telling you want to do, don't tell tell the high-sec PVPer what to do. |
Ghost Xray
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.27 10:07:00 -
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Reech Yvormes wrote:i imagine it doesnt make much money for CCP either. since i cancelled my sub right afterwards.
learning experience for me yes, but sadly, nobody else is going to learn from it.
That's the EvE spirit! When the going gets rough, the rough, quits. Well, after you whine first. Is this what happened the first time you lost at monopoly? You're going to have a rough go doing anything competitive.
At least quit for a cool reason, like:
The moderators on the forum aren't nice to my threads. They touch it in the bad place.
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Ghost Xray
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.27 10:23:00 -
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Reech Yvormes wrote:niche in that killing unarmed pods to reduce newbies skill up time is considered pvp and competition. ;)
I know what's he's trying to say:
Pods should drop implants as well. I mean, I think podding someone and taking the corpse back to a station for some one on one fun is a good enough reason, but if that's not your thing there should be other rewards.
+1 for that Reech |
Ghost Xray
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.27 11:28:00 -
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Reech Yvormes wrote:because i was atleast trying to support myself monetary wise, and planning for the future training wise, since i am actually subscribed and not just a trial player?
maybe
maybe not, that could mean nothing to you. you want expendable noobs right now because thats more use to you, right now?
but someone who is serious about actually making a difference, you dont want them?
they may be happy for everyone to just hand **** out and do everything for them and wipe their arse for them but i atleast like to think i am playing my character, at some point. like making my own isk.
if thats the people you want. why even subscribe at all. why not just make throw away emails and only play it for 2 weeks.
its you and everyone else who seems to set upon making it as difficult for people in high sec to actually do this. and i wonder why.
Dude, just admit you're butthurt about losing 100mil in implants. This isn't about kiiling nubs or picking on new kids. It's about how you overspent on implants and got burned. It happens to everyone at least once in their EvE life, if not lots of times. It's part of learning about cost/benefit of things and finding a right balance. Quit trying to blame your failings and bad decision making on other people. |
Ghost Xray
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.27 11:48:00 -
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Reech Yvormes wrote:
CCP thanks you for keeping eve niche griefer mmo and only keep quality players.
Here here!! Begone low quality players whose mothers are hamsters and whose fathers smelt of elderberries. |
Ghost Xray
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.27 12:12:00 -
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Reech Yvormes wrote:i was going to put pvp implants in my jump clone but i didnt get that far.
im not sure why you would do it to a miner though, just after youve blown their ship up. i guess that isnt enough reward for the kill?
are you guys happy that podding can happen in high sec? just curious.
is there an underlying need to pod in high sec? or a need to pod a miner, in high sec?
Here's one reason that I like:
"To weed out all non-hackers who do not pack the gear to play in my beloved EvE."
Podding is part of this game and crying about it wont change anything. |
Ghost Xray
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.27 12:47:00 -
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Reech Yvormes wrote:yeah i know it wont change but crying has given me something to do today. and to be honest if people dont then nothing will get debated. but i have to be honest about why i didnt stay longer so you guys know that one effect of podding high sec miners just because they are a high sec miner is simply going to get a response of cancelled sub. and one less target to shoot at. my fault it could be, but why push someones button, when they can so easily just push the button and say F this. i am just voicing it, tears or crying whatever, theres probably people who are too proud to say why.
because some of us are there to actually prepare for a fight, not to hide from it. and just holding us back from it is doing nothing but making us have to spend even longer in high sec staring at the arse end of a space rock.
How about this for a good reason:
You were podded in high-sec because the guy podding you sells implants and business seemed to be slowing down. You don't think it's right that a guy who sells implants can't earn enough to feed his exotic dancers, do you?
Or maybe, he's a miner too. And discouraging mining in general will increase his profits.
Or maybe his reasons for doing it aren't any of your business. It's YOUR fault for getting podded. You only failed yourself. Learn to take responsibility for your inactions. If you found the experience unpleasant, learn how to avoid it.
It's that "learning" part that people like about this game. They don't make it impossible because figuring stuff out is part of the fun I personally like. Quit trying to ruin my game you Goonie! |
Ghost Xray
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.27 18:02:00 -
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Reech Yvormes wrote:that you have actually got it easier and less risk than the newbies and miners who are trying to survive in high sec.
I'll give this one more shot. I'm not near as persistent as Dave.
Well, maybe the first lesson you should have learned is "High Sec != safe". It's a well known EvE fact. There are usually way too many people coming and going.
If you want to reduce your chance of gankage, then you need to find a less traveled back end system. Once in that system, find a good belt that allows you to get a reliable directional scan on anyone entering. Someone enters local hit your d-scan, if you see destroyer safe up. If you see anything expensive, chances are you're safe, but be ready.
Other tools at your disposal? Check the website http://evemaps.dotlan.net/ and you can see what sort of gankage activity is going on in your system, or systems around it. It may help you identify regular gankers in the area who you can add your contacts and set them red so if they enter your system, it'll help you be prepared.
Or, take the offensive. Get in your own destroyer and start hunting other destroyers. Anytime I see a destroyer in high-sec, my assumption is they are hunting for easy prey. Suicide into them and laugh at them in local or whatever you want.
The world is open for you to do anything you like. If you like mining, then mine. But do it smart. Make a game plan, a backup plan, actually play the game instead of mindless going to an asteroid belt and pushing your function keys.
The whole premise of EvE is that you aren't safe anywhere and if you want to make it you'll have to use your head a bit and get creative. |
Ghost Xray
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.27 18:24:00 -
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Reech Yvormes wrote:the lesson i should have learned really was this.
high sec is more dangerous than getting spoonfed **** for you by a null sec corp.
Yep, which is why guys like Dave sought out a corp soon after playing. But is it a surprise to you that it's easier if you make friends?
Some of the biggest carebears live in null. Lord Veldspar himself even operated a station in null until Dave's alliance got space jelly (because he alone is cooler then their entire alliance) and took it from him  . Such is the way things go in EvE, and we wouldn't want it any different. |
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